James
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mormons
Dec 17, 2004 16:12:02 GMT -5
Post by James on Dec 17, 2004 16:12:02 GMT -5
Fact: The Mormon Church is one of the richest establishments on the face of the earth.
There have been prophiesies of Christ's return made by the Mormons.
When Christ didn't return, they purchased and burned every publication of their prophesies that they could.
Most (a very high percentage) don't even know what the Hell is in their doctrine.
Only the so many thousand that are part of some special part of their church are going to heaven. Everyone else is going to hell.
That number was reached many years ago.
Mormons are funny.
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Vodka
n00b!!
Hella.
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mormons
Dec 18, 2004 2:58:18 GMT -5
Post by Vodka on Dec 18, 2004 2:58:18 GMT -5
Cite your source, please.
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mormons
Dec 18, 2004 3:45:20 GMT -5
Post by yaefer on Dec 18, 2004 3:45:20 GMT -5
fact: every religion has stupid stuff that you can completely criticize. and another one for the road: anyone who criticizes other religions while openly practicing one that could be considered equally outrageous from an opposing viewpoint = teh suck
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mormons
Dec 18, 2004 14:36:57 GMT -5
Post by Schmitt Industries Inc. on Dec 18, 2004 14:36:57 GMT -5
anyone who criticizes other religions while openly practicing one that could be considered equally outrageous from an opposing viewpoint = teh suck Good point.....
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mormons
Dec 19, 2004 14:11:36 GMT -5
Post by Forrest on Dec 19, 2004 14:11:36 GMT -5
You are all ignorant and I win.
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YETI
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mormons
Dec 19, 2004 18:44:01 GMT -5
Post by YETI on Dec 19, 2004 18:44:01 GMT -5
what is your prize?
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mormons
Dec 20, 2004 19:34:20 GMT -5
Post by Schmitt Industries Inc. on Dec 20, 2004 19:34:20 GMT -5
Your Christian head on a pike.
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mormons
Dec 20, 2004 23:04:10 GMT -5
Post by Forrest on Dec 20, 2004 23:04:10 GMT -5
I don't get a prize. Except bragging rights. And not even those really.
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YETI
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mormons
Dec 24, 2004 0:45:15 GMT -5
Post by YETI on Dec 24, 2004 0:45:15 GMT -5
bragging that you kicked andys ass? wow.
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Justin Leedy
Post Whore
This is my BOOM-stick!!
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mormons
Jan 3, 2005 18:29:46 GMT -5
Post by Justin Leedy on Jan 3, 2005 18:29:46 GMT -5
That's like bragging about waking up in the morning.
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mormons
Mar 11, 2005 0:26:19 GMT -5
Post by Forrest on Mar 11, 2005 0:26:19 GMT -5
Holy shit! I missed out on this sweet ZING!!
ZING, BITCH!!
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mormons
Mar 11, 2005 0:36:30 GMT -5
Post by Schmitt Industries Inc. on Mar 11, 2005 0:36:30 GMT -5
Wow, that was from a long time ago, I totally missed that entire thing, but that is a good zing.
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Justin Leedy
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This is my BOOM-stick!!
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mormons
Mar 11, 2005 3:13:48 GMT -5
Post by Justin Leedy on Mar 11, 2005 3:13:48 GMT -5
I saw that just now and couldn't believe I said that. It's perfectly zingable. Except, I know that Andy could kick my ass. I accept this because he has been practicing karate for like twelve years and I have been practicing guitar instead. Who would you say made the right choice?
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mormons
Mar 11, 2005 3:51:49 GMT -5
Post by Schmitt Industries Inc. on Mar 11, 2005 3:51:49 GMT -5
Let's weigh it Karate: Allows one to physically kick ass Could save life someday Allows national/internation recognition through tournaments Improves self through use of discipline(textbook case here) Could be used as profession(see Mr. Tanaka, he's also quite well off) Allows for deeper knowledge of theories on how the body works and therefore it's breaking points are Guitar Allows one to sonically kick ass Could save life someday(kind of a stretch) Allows national/international recognition through concerts/bands/virtuoso performance Could be used as professoin(guitar teacher, band member, et al) Allows for in depth knowledge of musical theory(depending on where ya go with it.
You guys make the decision, I'll set up a poll thread.
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Candizzle
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Never make fun of the geeks, one day they will be your boss.
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Post by Candizzle on Aug 4, 2005 3:05:56 GMT -5
I will have you all know that I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. What you call Mormon. I don't know how you find a lack of roots in Christ when he is so obviously mentioned in the name of our church. I am extremely offended by the things I have read here, and would sincerely appreciate you refraining from making such unfounded inaccurate accusations without first consulting somebody who knows what they are talking about. I know I'm not going to Hell Mr. Leedy. In fact, I don't believe there is such thing as "Hell." But that is more indepth into the doctrine that I do know, Mr. Brooks. Josephlied.com is just one more hatesite. I think there are hatesites to every concept on earth out there. Since I've joined this site, I have been highly amused by the threads, and have come to enjoy them. Finding this one hurt me though. I hope you realize how inappropriate this thread was. Please rethink continuing this thread, and if at all possible, your ideas about Mormons.
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YETI
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mormons
Aug 4, 2005 14:40:52 GMT -5
Post by YETI on Aug 4, 2005 14:40:52 GMT -5
hey, i have an idea. instead of automatically getting offended (like so many of your fellow mormons) why dont you actually look at www.josephlied.com. if your right, then you should easily be able to dismiss all the holes he found in your religion. if you want us to rethink this thread and rethink our ideas about mormons, you're gonna have to actually show us in some way that mormons arent full of shit. i dont think you can do it, because if you could then you would have already. the guy that wrote www.josephlied.com did know what he was talking about since he was a mormon for about 35 years before. if you actually read the site then you would know that. and i have talked to a few mormons and when i tell them why i think they are wrong they have no answer at all. so, since you think you are right and we are all wrong, please enlighten us. read josephlied.com and explain away all those holes. you shouldnt have any problem if your right.
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YETI
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mormons
Aug 4, 2005 14:42:27 GMT -5
Post by YETI on Aug 4, 2005 14:42:27 GMT -5
oh, and james...dont say anything here.
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Candizzle
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Never make fun of the geeks, one day they will be your boss.
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mormons
Aug 4, 2005 18:24:21 GMT -5
Post by Candizzle on Aug 4, 2005 18:24:21 GMT -5
I am not seeking to argue with you, YETI. And I do not desire to spend my time avidly defending something, when I know you have such predisposition towards our gospel. Arguing something I know that you are vehemently against would be a pointless endeavor. And no, I don't seek out hate sites against our religion and try to prove them wrong to the world. What a waste. People can believe what they want to believe. God sent us to this earth with the most precious gift of all: free agency. The power to make our own decisions, and accept the consequences. And he also gave us the atonement, that we may repent for wrong choices and be fully cleansed by his mercy. He suffered and died for each and every one of us. He knows us by name, He knows my favorite food, what I did today, everything. And that is the most comforting thought I have ever had, and I know it will always be the most comforting thought I ever WILL have. I am a daughter of God, Mr. YETI. You cannot bring me down with your berating, and you will not accomplish anything. I don't believe anybody should make fun of anybody's religion outright. God would not come to earth and point at the atheists and say hahha you're going to hell, cause you're full of sh**. He is a god of mercy and love, who sent us leaders, whether they be popes, prophets, etc. to let us know that. He sent us the Holy Bible, which I believe in, and also a continued testament of Jesus Christ, the Book of Mormon, to further understand his will for us. I am not expecting this to convert you or make you see any differently. I just hope that you have the decency of heart to not show any more prejudice on this site. It's wrong. It's one ingredient short of the Ku Klux Klan. And I do hope none of you would be proud to be part of that. And just taking the violence out of the KKKs ideas and concepts doesn't make it right. Anybody could find things wrong with other's religions. Some immature shallow minds may seek to undermine the catholic religions with all the sex scandals going on. But I know that it is not the Catholic Religion's fault such horrible things are happening. It's God's children using their agency in a rather unfortunate way. I challenge you Mr. YETI, to look up lds.org and mormon.org, and make your own conclusions about this church, not blindly following a hatesite, just because it sounds good. . . The enquirer sounds good sometimes, but that doesn't mean it's true. Again, I'd rather not continue this, so please, let's end it here. Love thy neighbor, Mr. YETI. And if you're so set on me talking about our doctrine, here's some tidbits to end this here.
We believe in God the eternal father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
We believe that men may be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgressions.
We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience through the laws and ordinances of the gospel.
We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, repentance; third, baptism by immersion; and fourth, the laying on of hands for the gift of the holy ghost.
We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
We believe the Bible to be the word of God, so far as it is translated correctly; We also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
We claim the privilige of worshiping the Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, when, or what they may.
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul- We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and we hope to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
I believe in this gospel with every fiber of my being. So please, may we end it at that?
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mormons
Aug 4, 2005 20:46:34 GMT -5
Post by Forrest on Aug 4, 2005 20:46:34 GMT -5
I'm not going to lock this. I'm sorry you find views that are opposed to your own "offensive." What if I found black people offensive because their skin was different? Debate away, please. I'll gladly join in when I have more time. To be quite honest, I'm glad you are here to provide an opposing viewpoint.
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Candizzle
n00b!!
Never make fun of the geeks, one day they will be your boss.
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mormons
Aug 4, 2005 21:13:46 GMT -5
Post by Candizzle on Aug 4, 2005 21:13:46 GMT -5
I do not find that views opposed to my own are offensive. But when people become antagonistic about their views is what bugs me. i.e. Saying people are full of shit. I don't think an intellectual debate involves berating the opponent.
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