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Post by Justin Leedy on Feb 17, 2005 18:50:36 GMT -5
I don't even remember what I originally wrote there. I think I'll let everyone think I actually said that. Deep down, I'm actually Andrew Nickerson.
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Post by Schmitt Industries Inc. on Feb 17, 2005 21:15:54 GMT -5
Oh you can't stop me Andrew, until you ban me, but of course, why would you do that, when you specifically asked me to come back? Fool! Got ya there!
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Post by sleepyhead on Feb 17, 2005 22:06:11 GMT -5
this is the only thread i will go all out nazi on.
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Post by sleepyhead on Feb 17, 2005 23:38:28 GMT -5
no. you can that bands name into other threads, but not this one baby. it's called musical cleansing.
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Post by Forrest on Feb 18, 2005 3:20:25 GMT -5
If the Nazi death camps had their generator engines go down, did they have to hold off on killing Jews? That would be terrible.
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Post by cifirrekcuT on Feb 18, 2005 5:24:36 GMT -5
hey, this is engine down we're talking about here.
listen to that snare. i want you to get a snare, tune it adjust that snare tension, then bring it into the studio, put a couple mics on it and recreate that sound from demure. i'll bet you can't. I can't, damn it
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Post by Justin Leedy on Feb 19, 2005 3:28:49 GMT -5
Dude, it's a snare drum. NO ONE CARES. That's just like when people say that you can only get a good guitar tone with a '59 Les Paul and Marshall Plexi and if you use anything else you're a loser. Snare drums only get noticed if they sound really bad (like in St. Anger) if they aren't disgusting, no one notices.
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Post by Forrest on Feb 19, 2005 3:38:06 GMT -5
yOr just mad becasue you sukc, enigne donw is good and yuo just can"t admit it.
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Post by cifirrekcuT on Feb 19, 2005 7:22:54 GMT -5
Dude, it's a snare drum. NO ONE CARES. That's just like when people say that you can only get a good guitar tone with a '59 Les Paul and Marshall Plexi and if you use anything else you're a loser. Snare drums only get noticed if they sound really bad (like in St. Anger) if they aren't disgusting, no one notices. I'll excuse that because you're young. Have you heard the snare? Have you tried to recreate the sound? Have you realized the difficulty/talent it took to make that sound from the drummer tuning it to the engineer recreating it in the studio? You couldn't do it. Someone else could. Are you able to appreciate that and offer the appropriate respect? Trying it might be the only way you could realize your ignorance on the subject. edit: corrected the punctuation because at least you appreciate that. maybe you'd consider what i said in turn...?
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Post by Justin Leedy on Feb 19, 2005 14:53:26 GMT -5
I never said it wasn't hard, I just said it didn't matter. All I expect the snare drum to do is to tell me where beat two and four are and give an occasional fill. Anyone that spends more than half an hour micing or even THINKING about the snare drum has really forgotten why he's playing the music. ONE drum from the kit is not that important. Maybe it's more like a guitar player running his signal through fifty EQs to make sure that each midrange frequency is balanced, either way, it doesn't matter. I don't care if it's hard, it's stupid.
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Post by sleepyhead on Feb 19, 2005 15:09:07 GMT -5
maybe putting that much thought into your sound shows how much you care about your music.
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Post by Justin Leedy on Feb 19, 2005 15:14:18 GMT -5
No, it shows you care about trivialities that neither add nor detract from the results. Maybe if there was a huge snare drum solo in the song, I could understand, but it's just one drum out of a whole kit that is one part of the whold band. I really cannot overstate its insignificance.
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Post by sleepyhead on Feb 19, 2005 15:23:39 GMT -5
well, have you ever listened to engine down? it's not like metal, he doesn't play the same beats over and over. the drums are a more inportant part of this band. they add more to the sound then the drums would in metal or punk or whatever.
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Post by Justin Leedy on Feb 19, 2005 15:28:26 GMT -5
Not Metal? I've never heard of such a thing! I mean, I don't even play in a jazz/funk band with Logan and Valentin or the school jazz band or anything. Wow, thanks for pointing out to me that there are other types of music, I don't know what I would've done.
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Post by sleepyhead on Feb 19, 2005 15:33:22 GMT -5
that's not what i was saying. i was saying it's not like metal, which is what you were judging everything from. you were taking the guitarist standpoint from the guitar dominated genre.
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Post by Justin Leedy on Feb 19, 2005 15:45:21 GMT -5
I wasn't judging it from a Metal (which is always capitalized) perspective. I was just comparing it to the guitar to give an example and to make it clearer for myself. Amp tones are the same as snare sounds, they only really get noticed if they sound awful. Making it sound like somehow this song is so amazing because the SNARE sounds good is stupid.
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Post by sleepyhead on Feb 19, 2005 15:49:36 GMT -5
again, this is not the point, as the band members aren't trying to make their individual instruments sound like individual instruments, but fit together in the music. they focus on their own sound so as not to distract you on part of the song. you're not supposed to notice unless you really listen. in "Metal" they have guitar solos and such that distract you from the other instruments. so the point of dialing the tone is not to stand out, but to stand together.
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Post by Justin Leedy on Feb 19, 2005 15:56:36 GMT -5
You do realize that almost every Iron Maiden solo -section is full of two-guitar harmonies played in unison with the bass, right? Does that sound like "distraction"? It's only distraction if you want the focus somewhere else. In Metal, the focus moves around to specific points throughout the song, such as to a guitar riff, or a vocal line or a drum groove, and often to the whole band blending as one massive Metal fist crushing whiny indie rockers where they stand.
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Post by sleepyhead on Feb 19, 2005 16:04:08 GMT -5
hhhhh, there's no point in arguing. i've made my points, you don't care. even when i was into metal, i never took it as seriously as you guys do, and when i was into it, i still listened to my "whiny indie" and my alternative and my world music and my jazz and my classical and whatever the hell else.
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Post by Justin Leedy on Feb 19, 2005 16:08:06 GMT -5
You know, I was just coming back to this thread to say that I wasn't going to post here anymore till the subject changed. I'm glad we agree on that.
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